Well I am sad to say that I did not get my digits at my last attempt at the CCIE Lab exam.
Everything was in place I had prepared well, I went to the NH Airport Hotel a day early so had an extra nights sleep. But on the day the TS got me again and I got buried in one big ticket which I could not resolve and I also dropped marks on the tickets I did fix. So must have broken a restriction. I also dropped some big points in my Layer 2 which I am still not sure about what happened there.
Positive points
- I was so nearly there I felt on top of everything, I had full reachability early in the day all my TCL scripts were working, there were no topics that really phased me. I felt good.
- I arrived a day early at the NH Airport hotel which I can highly recommend. I have not slept well before my previous attempts and my first night was very restless. However after a day of gentle labbing in the hotel I went to bed at 10:30 and had a great nights sleep and was up at 6 feeling ready for day.
- I had a lot more support from friends and fellow CCIE candidates. This I now realise is very important as trying to pass this exam on your own is a very lonely journey. I have met some great people along the way and just bouncing ideas about troubleshooting of each other has really helped me focus on my approach
- The version 5 blueprint looks very good – and I am enjoying now studying DMVPN and I think the format of the exam is going to be better.
- I now know that I need to aim to complete TS in 90 minutes max and to also complete the config section in 280 minutes max.
Negative points
- I failed! After all the time / money / preparation and mental pressure it all came to an email from Cisco which said fail. This is the hardest part of the CCIE journey and I know a lot of other candidates will empathise with me. On the way home on the train you feel positive, and then start to remember things you may have missed. After the result comes in you are crushed but still positive saying I am going to pass this thing and want tot get straight back into it. After you have given yourself a few days off the study you start to feel very low about it all and just want to give up. It is at this point which a lot of people do – or you just get back on the horse and keep going.
- The version 4 to version 5 change – For me passing the CCIE Lab exam this is a negative point as if I could go back for Version 4 in 30 days I think I could have passed it. This is also a positive point (see above)
- Having to explain to my wife that there will be more weekends where I will be studying. This is another of the hardest part about failing is that knowing that you are going to have to detach yourself from life again for a while in the lead up to your next attempt.
- I did not have enough time to verify my lab at the end of day which I was very annoyed about, I went a bit slower than I should have done at the start of the lab to ensure the foundations were solid. However on refelction I needed to go a lot faster and just get it built and then verify at the end of the day. There is a fine balance between going slow and steady and verify as you go and going faster and seeing things working and verifying at the end of the day.
- The cost, each attempt costs me about £1500 and I have also sacrificed a lot of family holiday time. This is something that any CCIE candidate just has to swallow or get someone else to pay for it!
My schedule for the next few months.
I have already built my virtual CCIE rack using a baremetal ESXi install – currently running 20 x CSR1000v routers, I will be connecting up the switches next week and I will be doing a few posts about this build. Although it is very well documented, there are a few tweaks I had to make which did take me a few hours to overcome – mainly the virtual console access.
I am reading through the DMVPN design guides and looking forward to the new ATC class from INE to cover the new topics.
I need to improve on basic speed. Typing out basic configs in a solid and concise manner. My typing speed has always been good as I learned to touch type when I was 16 and I can easily type at 40 words per minute with my eyes shut. What I need to improve on is interpretation of questions and finding quicker ways of doing everything.
The troubleshooting section needs some work. I was doing very well but did get caught in the lights a few times and just did not know where to do, I had checked everything but the ticket was still not working, I then ended up pecking around for the problem. As a CCIE your troubleshooting strategy needs to be 2 or 3 show and debug commands to isolate the fault and then once the fault is located determining the best way to fix without breaking any restrictions.
I call it a laser approach, you need to find and isolate the problem efficiently.
- Look at the fault and verify that it is as the question says
- Determine your first TS step – ping / trace / sh ip route etc
- Make your first educated move to the next step – do you repeat the ping / trace / sh ip route etc from a different device
- You should now be narrowing in to the fault and need to use the most effective debug command to show the problem.
- The debug should tell you what the fault is, now you need to locate it.
- Once on the problem device and you can see the fault, how do you fix it without breaking restrictions.
I need to do some more work around show commands for specific areas of the config
Instead of doing a sh run and looking – being able to do sh run | sec router bgp and going straight to the right bit of config is essential
I did on a few occasions copy the config to notepad and do a search to find something quickly.
I also need to do some more work on the documentation, as there were a few topics where I probably spent more time studying them, when all the information is there for you in the exam. Familiarise yourself with the technology, lab it a few times and then know where the documentation is. This worked well for me on one particular technology, I had not labbed it for months but a quick look at the documentation brought it all back and the question was asking for a particular change to timers of which I was easily able to take the configuration example and adjust it to the requirements of the questions.
Conclusion
I am disappointed that I did not pass this time, but I am not going to give up!
There are areas that I know can be improved on and I will be working on those over the next few months.
I need to make sure that every day I improve on something. I will be blogging a lot more over the next few months and if you are in the same boat and are transitioning from Version 4 to Version 5 and would like to get together and form a study group I am always looking to meet other CCIE candidates from around the world.
Roger
nate
sorry to hear this, gl on your next attempt!
Christophe Lucas
Hi Roger,
As a great guy says : “You never fail until you stop trying.” I think you are on the right track ! come on guy !
I am really interested in some blogs post on your CSR1000v set up (hardware, software, …). I think it can help me 🙂
Regards,
Christophe
Roger Perkin
Thanks Christophe, I will be posting in a few weeks on my CSR1000v setup – just need to get a couple of switches to be complete but the routers are all running sweet in ESXi
Frank hoban
Hard luck Roger…keep going.You’ll nail it next time for sure.
Mark Ward-Bopp
Sorry to hear you didn’t pass it sounds like you were nearly there.
Welcome to v5, I really like the blueprint changes and I think you’ll pick them up pretty quickly. I’m going for an attempt in Brussels on July 7th, good tip on staying an extra night in the hotel. I was weighing that up and now I’m definitely going to stay the extra night.
Best of luck on the v5 studies. I’m using GNS Early Release + IOU and find it surprisingly stable and very good especially with the new INE topologies.
Thanks,
Mark
Roger Perkin
Thanks Mark, I am hoping to make an attempt at the CCIE Version 5 Lab exam early next year. keep in touch if you want to compare notes!
Roger
raj
Hi Roger,
Hard luck….No worries you will defiantly succeed in next attempt. I am having 2.6 years exp in network support..I am planning for CCIE in SP but I am confused to go for RS or SP…could you please let me know your opinion.All the best for next attempt.
Thanks.
Roger Perkin
What are you confused about?
Most people will go for R&S first and then very soon complete the SP as a lot of topics cross over and the SP just goes into greater depth of Multicast, MPLS etc.
If you are working in an SP environment it might be easier for you to go for SP, but most people I know completed R&S and then within 6 months knocked out SP as well. HTH
Silviu
You are an inspiration to many of us. Also your advice and tips are invaluable. Keep up the fight and we will be here to congratulate you when it happens.
sid
Mate I took mine in May and failed so badly that my soul was crushed…..but as the time goes I thought more about it and indentified my shortcomings…. people like yourself are just the right kind of inspiration I need to pick myself up and dream to do it again….good luck mate!!!!
Sid
Roger Perkin
Thanks Sid, after I failed for the third time I did feel like giving up, but I know that I will become a CCIE one day and since my first attempt have learnt a lot more and in more depth than I did a year ago. Now I get to study more on IPSEC and DMVPN which are great skills to have in your tool belt. You can do it, just fire up a few routers and learn a very small topic really well and then keep doing that over and over again. I have done this with MPLS to the point now where I can build a multi site MPLS core with my eyes shut. Something I could not do before attempt one. Fact: I was not prepared for attempt one! Good Luck
Pierre
sorry to hear you didn’t get it this time. I’ve been in the industry for more than 15 years, and will also be attempting the R&S. I appreciate all the tips and info you provide. The vmware and CSR1000v lab will certainly be one of the things I will install to help me with my studies. keep up the good work Roger.. cheers.
Roger Perkin
Thanks Pierre, keep an eye on the blog as I will be increasing the content as I need to get the lab passed before the end of they year!
robsam02
You are an inspiration to many of us, Roger. My name is Roger too and I am also studying v5 now. I know you’ll pass the next time. The question I have for you is VMware licensing, and how to get pass the 90 day evaluation.
Roger Perkin
Hi Roger, sadly I can’t provide any solution on the 90 day evaluation on Vmware as I run a licensed version.
Mustafa
Hi Roger:
I live in Germany and came across your site and would like to say I really like your Blog. You have a lot of very useful information on your site and that is very helpful for others. Thumbs up! I am at the beginning of a long road to become a CCIE R&S. I am planning to go to the lab exam around same time next year, but I will see how I am doing around this time next year.I just ordered all my books and planning to setup a lab similar to the one you have with ESXi and 20x CSR1000V routers. What I would like to know is do you have some more specifics regarding setup, config files etc.
Best regards,
Mustafa
Roger Perkin
What do you mean more specific? Do you mean about setting up the V5 Virtual lab or actual configuration of the routers?